At Harlam we were talking recently about Lamo’s late mother who passed away many years ago, in the conversation Harlin expressed joy that she may well now be out there again, living another life, as she believes in reincarnation.
Reincarnation is the philosophical or religious concept that the non-physical essence of a living being starts a new life in a different physical form or body after biological death. It is also called rebirth or transmigration, and is a part of the Saṃsāra doctrine of cyclic existence.
The belief is that when a soul dies it returns within a newly born human in a cycle of continual existence.
Lamo then asked a very weird question about this form of the souls existence. Assume there are eight billion people that inhabit the Earth. If there was some kind of world wide epidemic that wiped out, lets say 50% of the population, how does reincarnation work there? Now there are not enough soul containers available for all those who die to return to?
Expanding on this, as a soul can return in any form within nature, assume the other species on the Planet were also victim to the epidemic, resulting in their numbers dwindling by 50% to. In effect in this hypothesis you have eight billion souls but there are now not enough new babies or other forms of new life for them to fill. What happens to these souls now after the bodies physical death?
Harlin put forward the following thought;
“I believe origin of souls was like a big bang. Our souls are fragments of one big giant energy source. So when this whole apocalyptic or epidemic thing happens, souls will shrink back as ONE into this huge ethereal pool of life energy.”
Think about god as one entity and his messengers, (as species), like Jesus, prophet, buddha, gurus and other lords as energy fragments of the main source. When they departed from earth, their energy was contained, right back to their original source. This would offer a solution to what happens to those excessive souls if there are no free life containers for them to be reused within. They are simply absorbed back into this infinite pool of life energy.
At Harlam we have talked before about the separation of souls we see being a sub part of something larger. Perhaps not a collective conscious per se? Lamo’s thought is we have a unique soul at whatever state it exists, here in the physical world or if we are part of some ethereal ocean of Gods mind. He is not sure that we lose our individual soul when we go back to that larger Ocean.
Belief that there is an original perhaps limitless Ocean of life energy, that somehow God takes a bucket, dips it in and then that bucket full of that energy becomes us, our individual soul for all time. The thought that when we physically die our soul is then poured back in in this ocean to lose all that we were, is a little sad. If this was the case then how that would make an eternal soul?
Lamo wonders if we take our individual soul nuances with us somehow, slowly building more dimensions within it. If we come back as an Animal then when that dies it is added to the knowledge of our bigger individual souls experience?
Harlin expanded on the concept of an ocean of life energy saying that we could part of one big ocean but that doesn’t mean we have to lose our identity during the process of getting back together?
Or does reincarnation necessitate a wiping of the souls memory of previous incarnations? If so then again, it means that we only exist within this single life span, whether we are human, animal or other being? It would raise the question then though that it would stop the soul from being eternal even though it may exist forever. If the uniqueness is removed each time it is reincarnated, it simply becomes like a continually reused shopping bag, unaware of the previous contents it carried before?
“Eternal soul“, is quite the statement to. In theory it cannot be everlasting as the ethereal energy pool is a product that is bound to this single Universe. Which we know has a beginning but more importantly, at some point an end. Surely our soul is only as eternal as the Universe in which it exists?
Another idea, for as Harlin rightly says, “Many theories can be plotted on this subject. We could only assume how it may work, only as far as our imagination takes us“, what if humans, plants, animals along with other forms of life are part of Gods organs. If God is just one body then we, all life, are just cells of a particular organ? Its a different analogy that she uses on the belief of Pantheism that the Universe and God are one and the same. The following is a thought from this belief as to what happens when we die;
“At our death the temporary separation of our genetic structure and our consciousness is ended, and we are more fully united with nature and the cosmos, and the matter of our bodies is recycled into new life. During the process of dying we should relax into this realization, float and drift in the sea of matter. Such an attitude is far more calming than to worry whether we are headed for heaven or eternal torment – or whether we’ll be reborn as a cockroach or a king.”
Harlin sometimes thinks that our existence is selfish. We are born with one purpose called LIFE no matter what the journey is all about. After all if we think truly about it, the only person we spend our entire life with, it is our self. Here the idea is when this solo mission is accomplished then its THE END. Our purpose is to live in harmony with none other than our own SELF firstly and lastly. To accept who we are, to love ourselves, understand our own unique soul.
When Lamo queried what she meant by this, she explained how she had learned from patients in the ICU ward she once worked, about near death experiences. These people had talked of being given a choice, of coming back, or moving on. The thought is that we live many physical lives during human history, in each we learn a new lesson about life, existence. When that physical life ends we take that knowledge gained but are then guided by what are master souls, those that have acquired more knowledge than our own. They then guide us in choosing where to then live our next life, but given a specific idea, lesson to learn, to continually expand our knowledge. Eventually we will become master souls, where we have learned what THE END actually is.
There is another side to this constant living of past lives, in that if we wronged someone, then we owe that soul a debt to be repaid. Until we do, then when we die, we cannot move on until we go back as many times as are needed to set right our indiscretion. Until we have lived a pure life, with all conscience clear, with all our fears removed, we will continue to come back to live another life. She refers us to the fascinating book of Dr Brian Weiss – Many Lives, Many Masters who expands greatly on this idea.
Lamo thought this was an interesting idea then offering the next thought. He wondered if God gave us free will, the ability to make those choices Harlin described, (To be selfish), but if they are more like choosing subjects at University. Once you finish, die, our choice of belief then defines where you, (your soul), goes next?
Well what Lamo wonders is that, if a person chooses to believe it simply ends when you die, then God grants that, ending that souls existence. (Maybe going back to the eternal Ocean but as recycled energy). Or like Harlin, if you choose to believe, in reincarnation, in whatever form that is, then when you do God again grants you that choice you made when your current physical body dies? Like some kind of reward for finding your own belief, although during life it is hidden. After all we should not be swayed to do something knowing we will get a treat for doing so.
Here is a thought. Maybe through reincarnation we are able to learn all the things of the Universe, however that may happen. Eventually when we have experienced enough life cycles, at the end we understand how the Universe actually works. In reaching this level of education, we are then given our own Universe were we are now God?
It would go towards answering one more thought of Harlin’s. She added to our conversation that maybe this whole “life and universe” thing is just an experiment set up by God, In order for us to figure out. God must be making new models with new set of brains commanding, “Go. Live. And try to figure out who your master is!” Whether the answer to that question is God or we reach the conclusion that we our masters of our own self having been afforded the opportunity, maybe guidance, from God?
How do we draw a conclusion on our journey of thought we have travelled within this post? We think that Harlin summed it up beautifully when she quoted;
Many theories can be plotted on this subject. We could only assume how it may work, only as far as our imagination takes us!
As humans we can only surmise about the nature of our soul, where it may originate to whether it may be eternal. In the greater scheme of the Universe with the design principals that God has built it to are well beyond our comprehension, maybe even our rich imagination. The one thing that both Harlin and Lamo do agree is that no one is right, yet no one is wrong with what they believe, it is as individual to each living being as is their soul. In life we should continue to strive to understand, strengthen that belief or find a reason to adapt it. For when we do leave this physical body is the life we lived the defining experience that sets up the path of where our soul then goes?
When we write our posts we are not writing them as, “This is how it is.“, we try to share our own ideological, even theological beliefs with each other as it helps us expand our understanding of what might be possible. We hope that you who read our words are then encouraged to evaluate your own beliefs, for they are as right as anyone else’s. Please do leave comments we love to hear from others.
(c) Harlin & Lamo The Lion 2019